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The Adventurous JediLevel Seven
Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 17th 2019, 4:07 pm
Curious to see the common consensus. Where do you rank him in power?
trayvon
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 17th 2019, 4:26 pm
Below Dooku, but above the SWTOR mains, Maul, Ancients etc.
MasterCilghalLevel Three
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 17th 2019, 4:27 pm
Personally I place him in the same tier as Dooku and Maul, marginally above Dooku and solidly above Maul.
MPModerator | Champion of Darkness
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 17th 2019, 6:01 pm
Jake wrote:Below Dooku, but above the SWTOR mains, Maul, Ancients etc.
PeraltaEagle45
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 17th 2019, 6:51 pm
Marginally above Bane/Malgus/Marr at best. Well below Dooku/Maul.
The Fallen WarriorLevel Four
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 12:36 am
Dooku+ yoda+ ROTS sheev+ Anakin+
But sub all real high tiers, he is that inbetweener tier like up with krayt and sheev in the echelons of power but below them both, below luke, perhaps below some of the njo guys like vong etc (shimmra particularly) possibly below joruus, but in that same realm of power.
But sub all real high tiers, he is that inbetweener tier like up with krayt and sheev in the echelons of power but below them both, below luke, perhaps below some of the njo guys like vong etc (shimmra particularly) possibly below joruus, but in that same realm of power.
Master AzrongerModerator
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 6:17 am
Somewhat above RotS Sidious and Yoda
The LostLevel Five
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 7:29 am
His raw power is disproportionately greater than his skill as a lightsaber duelist. His skill with the Force is top tier. He has insanely enhanced durability and strength, and thanks to being half machine, much of his body his redundant and won't slow him down if lost in a fight.
Vader is a very skilled duelist and "makes up" for the deficiencies of his suit, but that's not to say that he would be just as good of a duelist if he had more traditional cybernetics like Maul's prosthetic legs and the prosthetic arm he had already. The fact he needs to be kept on life support means he is stuck inside this cumbersome suit and will always have limited mobility compared to what he could have.
Vader in a pure lightsaber duel is likely below people like Maul, Kenobi and Dooku but in all likelihood his raw power in the Force is quite a bit greater. The big question is, can he use his power to bridge the gap in their fighting capabilities? Can he tank his way through and find a lethal opening?
Vader is a very skilled duelist and "makes up" for the deficiencies of his suit, but that's not to say that he would be just as good of a duelist if he had more traditional cybernetics like Maul's prosthetic legs and the prosthetic arm he had already. The fact he needs to be kept on life support means he is stuck inside this cumbersome suit and will always have limited mobility compared to what he could have.
Vader in a pure lightsaber duel is likely below people like Maul, Kenobi and Dooku but in all likelihood his raw power in the Force is quite a bit greater. The big question is, can he use his power to bridge the gap in their fighting capabilities? Can he tank his way through and find a lethal opening?
- LOTL
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 9:51 am
Why is it greater than them to such an extent that it is above the likes of Hego? Vader's force strength, that is
- PeraltaEagle45
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 10:33 am
Vader is not in any way superior to Yoda or Sidious.
NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 11:44 am
Above the likes of the Act 3 Protags, Ancients, Malgus, Marr, Saba, Katarn ect but not to the point where he can stomp them.
Probably roughly on par with the likes of Maul and SF Malak.
Below the likes of Novel Revan, Arcann, Windu, Dooku, Caedus ect but good enough to give them a fight.
Probably roughly on par with the likes of Maul and SF Malak.
Below the likes of Novel Revan, Arcann, Windu, Dooku, Caedus ect but good enough to give them a fight.
- The Fallen WarriorLevel Four
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 11:56 am
>Holding dooku and mace on the same tier
- trayvon
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 12:14 pm
>Mentioning Novel Revan, Mace and Arcann but not Asajj
- NevesYtneves (DC77)Level Seven
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 4:51 pm
@In-sidiousvader:
Mace is stated to be Dooku's match as of YDR and both are 8's. No further discussion to be had.
@Jake:
Why would I hold a sub Savage scrub who likely loses to the likes of Malgus, Marr, Katarn and Saba on the same level as Mace, Arcann and Novel Revan?
>Holding dooku and mace on the same tier
Mace is stated to be Dooku's match as of YDR and both are 8's. No further discussion to be had.
@Jake:
>Mentioning Novel Revan, Mace and Arcann but not Asajj
Why would I hold a sub Savage scrub who likely loses to the likes of Malgus, Marr, Katarn and Saba on the same level as Mace, Arcann and Novel Revan?
The Witness
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 8:33 pm
mastercilghal wrote:Personally I place him in the same tier as Dooku and Maul, marginally above Dooku and solidly above Maul.
This...
- The Witness
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 8:34 pm
SithArchaeologist wrote:Marginally above Bane/Malgus/Marr at best. Well below Dooku/Maul.
Ew gross
- PeraltaEagle45
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 9:04 pm
Sam wrote:SithArchaeologist wrote:Marginally above Bane/Malgus/Marr at best. Well below Dooku/Maul.
Ew gross
Vader has nothing on Maul or Dooku, lol.
Blade_of_DorinLevel One
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 18th 2019, 10:07 pm
Stop lying bruhSithArchaeologist wrote:Sam wrote:SithArchaeologist wrote:Marginally above Bane/Malgus/Marr at best. Well below Dooku/Maul.
Ew gross
Vader has nothing on Maul or Dooku, lol.
SithSauceLevel One
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 19th 2019, 9:07 am
DC77 wrote:Above the likes of the Act 3 Protags, Ancients, Malgus, Marr, Saba, Katarn ect but not to the point where he can stomp them.
Probably roughly on par with the likes of Maul and SF Malak.
Below the likes of Novel Revan, Arcann, Windu, Dooku, Caedus ect but good enough to give them a fight.
I'm inclined to agree with your placement of Vader/Dooku. I can see him being below Dooku level, but not to the point where he would get "stomped" by him like some others seem to think here
- SithSauceLevel One
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
May 19th 2019, 9:17 am
SithArchaeologist wrote:Sam wrote:SithArchaeologist wrote:Marginally above Bane/Malgus/Marr at best. Well below Dooku/Maul.
Ew gross
Vader has nothing on Maul or Dooku, lol.
Based on feats/statements, he very much has.....
- The Adventurous JediLevel Seven
Re: Thoughts on Darth Vader?
October 2nd 2019, 6:08 pm
Bump. Curious to see how things have changed since I made this thread.
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